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Elm Creek

Elm Creek is the principal tributary of Little Conewango Creek, which it joins about a half mile south of Weeden Road in Randolph. This stream is about 7 miles long, but a sizeable trout fishery is found only in the lowermost 2-mile-long section of the stream, i.e., from the mouth upstream to the crossing of Route 394/Main Street in East Randolph. Upstream of Route 394, water temperatures in the stream quickly become marginal for trout. A few trout will be found upstream of Route 394 in the section accessed from the small park next to East Randolph United Methodist Church on Church Street, but the remainder is too warm to support trout due to a lack of bank cover and warm-water infusions from the two flood control impoundments located in the upper half of the stream. 

The fishable portion of Elm Creek flows through variety of settings, ranging from parkland and residential properties to woodlands and wetlands. The stream ranges from about 15 to 30 feet in width, has a gravel and cobble bottom, and generally flows clear. Silt begins to occur as you approach Weeden Road and becomes prominent as you approach the junction with Little Conewango Creek. Much of the stream has a substantial amount of bank cover, but never so much as to make fly fishing difficult. While hip waders are adequate for most of this stream, there are deep holes in the town park area and downstream of Weeden Road that can easily over-top hip waders. Chest waders are the better choice here. 

I was a volunteer on the DEC's 2021 trout population survey of Elm Creek. I was amazed by both the number of wild trout captured and the size of some of the fish. Because of its large population of wild brown trout, this stream is no longer stocked and is managed as a year-round wild trout fishery. Although the 2-mile-long trout section of Elm Creek is categorized as wild-quality, the DEC’s Scott Cornett believes this section of the stream is comparable to wild-premier streams in terms of quality. It is listed as wild-quality only because the section that meets the quality requirements for wild-premier fails to meet the 3-mile minimum length requirement for that category. Elm Creek may not have the name recognition of Wiscoy Creek or Clear Creek, but it is a high-quality stream and should not be overlooked. For the results of the DEC's most recent trout population survey of this stream and its principal tributary, The Ram, see Links

To facilitate public access to Elm Creek, the state has purchased 0.4 miles of public fishing rights (PFRs) along the stream south of Weeden Road (see Map 1 of the DEC brochure under Links). This section of the stream can be a bit difficult to fish due to thick streamside vegetation, especially in the summer, and the soggy surrounding terrain (almost all of Elm Creek south of Weeden Road flows through a state-regulated wetland). This is especially true if you plan on fishing from the stream bank, but a set of waders, preferably hip waders, will make the fishing in this section a lot easier. In late April of 2022, I waded the stream from Weeden Road to its junction with Little Conewango Creek and found numerous deep pools and little evidence of other anglers. 

In addition to the public fishing rights section, public access to this stream is available at Weeden Park, behind the East Randolph Volunteer Fire Department parking lot, and at East Randolph Memorial Park on Church Street. See Access for additional information.

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Location Map

Photographs

This section of Elm Creek flows along the east side of East Randolph Memorial Park which is located next to the United Methodist Church on Church Street. This is the upper end of the trout section of Elm Creek. Because it is well upstream of the infusion of cold water provided by The Ram, it is best fished in the spring and early summer due to rising water temperatures.
Elm Creek seen downstream of the East Randolph Volunteer Fire Department on Route 394. Though rather shallow, pockets of deeper water provide holding areas for trout. The Ram, seen flowing in from the left, supplies Elm Creek with an abundance of cold water. When water in Elm Creek above The Ram is in the mid-70s, water in The Ram can be in the low 60s. This injection of cold water keeps Elm Creek suitable for wild brown trout at least as far downstream as Weeden Road and probably further.
In late spring of 2021, the DEC performed a trout population survey along several sections of Elm Creek. Seen here is the shocking team working on the section near Route 394 in East Randolph.
This 17-inch brown trout was captured from Elm Creek during the June 2021 electro-shocking survey. The survey section was a short distance downstream of Route 394.
Nearly a quarter mile of Elm Creek is easily accessed from Weeden Park in Randolph. This is a very productive section of the stream, with deep pools and undercut banks providing holding areas for numerous wild brown trout. In the spring, this stream has a good flow of water and some seriously deep holes, which provide refuge for trout. In addition to providing public access to the stream, the park also has restrooms and an observation/fishing platform.
This observation/fishing platform is located along Elm Creek where it flows next to the municipal park on Weeden Road in Randolph. The park provides access to about 1,300 feet of the stream.
As you can see in this photo, some of the pools on Elm Creek where it flows along Weeden Park are large and deep. Several large brown trout were captured in this pool.
One of about a dozen 16- and 17-inch brown trout taken from Elm Creek during and electro-shocking survey conducted in June 2021. This fish was captured in the section of stream along Weeden Park.
Trout aren't the only species of fish in Elm Creek. Also present are darters, suckers, a few pumpkinseeds, and northern brook lamprey. Unlike their bloodsucking relative the sea lamprey, brook lampreys are not a danger to other fish. Only the larvae of the northern brook lamprey are active feeders, filter-feeding on detritus, zooplankton, algae, and other microorganisms as they lie buried in the substrate. The free-swimming juveniles and adults do not have functional intestines and do not feed.
Elm Creek, seen looking downstream from Weeden Road. The water is still clear here, but increasing amounts of silt cause the water to cloud up further downstream.
This scene is typical of much of Elm Creek south of Weeden Road. Piles of large woody debris create many pools, some well over 3 feet deep, which provide habitat for adult trout.
Elm Creek seen about 50 yards upstream of its junction with Little Conewango Creek. By the time the stream reaches this point, it has transformed into a typical bottomland stream in a wetland, with muddy banks, deeply undercut tree roots, and cloudy but not usually muddy water. Wear chest waders and bring a walking stick to make navigating this section easier, and bring lots of mosquito repellant.

Resource Map

See Location Map and DECinfo Locator Map (under Links).

Directions to map pin location


Access

Road Access:

Public fishing rights (PFRs) extend from Weeden Road down to the junction with Little Conewango Creek, a distance of about 0.4 miles. Extensive public access is also available at the following locations:

(1) Adjacent to East Randolph Memorial Park on Church Street, just north of Route 394.

(2) The parking area behind the East Randolph Volunteer Fire Department on Route 394/Main Street in East Randolph (park in the back of the lot away from the garage). This is not a formal public access, but this is a commonly used access point, and I didn't see any posting along this section of the stream. Anglers who fish this stream told me that, unless you plan on fishing downstream (not usually a good idea for trout fishing), you have to walk southeast on Route 394 to Spring Street (about 650 feet), turn left on Spring Street, and then walk about 500 feet to the stream. This will give you about 1,100 feet of the stream to fish. Initially, residential properties will be on both sides of the stream, but it then enters a wooded area.

About half way back to the fire hall, you will come to the mouth of The Ram, the only sizeable tributary of Elm Creek. This section of The Ram appears to be mostly unposted. There is some trash in and along the stream, but this small, high-quality trout stream is well worth investigating.

(3) Weeden Park, which is located off Weeden Road, provides access to about 1,400 feet of Elm Creek (the map pin is located in the parking area, next to the stream). The park's parking area is located immediately upstream of the public fishing rights (PFR) section.

Boat Launch Site(s):

None.

Fishery Management

Management Category: Inland Trout Stream, Wild-Quality: From confluence with Little Conewango Creek upstream to NYS Route 394, a distance of 1.7 miles.

Fish Species:

  • Brown Trout (wild)

Stocking Information: Not stocked.

Special Fishing Regulations: Wild-Quality inland trout stream regulations apply. See NYS Inland Trout Stream Regulations.



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